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#1 Tiddles123

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:30 PM

Hi my 2, three year old tortoises currently live in their indoor enclosure which is in my living room. Due to events I am only going to hibernate the much bigger of the 2 and I will start wind down in October. I was just wondering if I should move the bigger one to somewhere cooler to begin wind down as now it's getting cooler we are using the central heating more in the house. I have an out house would this be better for him?
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 02:40 AM

Hi my 2, three year old tortoises currently live in their indoor enclosure which is in my living room. Due to events I am only going to hibernate the much bigger of the 2 and I will start wind down in October. I was just wondering if I should move the bigger one to somewhere cooler to begin wind down as now it's getting cooler we are using the central heating more in the house. I have an out house would this be better for him?
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Hi. they will need separate enclosures for the wind down period as you'll be feeding one and not the other at the start of wind down he needs heat to help digest any food he has in his system then you start to cool them down over time, with little ones I leave them till later in the year so start wind down in December and hibernate through Jan/Feb as I always find these are the coldest months with less food available.  :) 



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:52 AM

Ok thanks. Tiddles is around 120 g so rather big for his age as he is really greedy and stops the smaller one from eating. I put them outdoors for Summer but Tiddles spent most of his time hiding inside.
How long wind down should I do him. Yes I will be separating them and I have my fridge here ready. I'm going to move him asap to get used to the new enclosure.
I was reading something where someone said start reducing from the 12 hours heat and gradually go down to none but I've always gone with the natural day light hours so how would I start as now they are on from around 7 until 4.30 ish which is when they both dig down anyway.
Thanks for your help.
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:59 PM

Ok thanks. Tiddles is around 120 g so rather big for his age as he is really greedy and stops the smaller one from eating. I put them outdoors for Summer but Tiddles spent most of his time hiding inside.
How long wind down should I do him. Yes I will be separating them and I have my fridge here ready. I'm going to move him asap to get used to the new enclosure.
I was reading something where someone said start reducing from the 12 hours heat and gradually go down to none but I've always gone with the natural day light hours so how would I start as now they are on from around 7 until 4.30 ish which is when they both dig down anyway.
Thanks for your help.
Amanda.

Hi, how long are you planning on hibernating him, I think it's a good idea to separate them give the little one some time to catch up, how much does the little one weigh.

I do about two and a half 3 week wind down for my smaller ones the first week you want to just keep as normal just with no food and regular baths then start reducing the time if he's really active then reduce the heat a little and bath regular, you may need to keep them on their own a little after hibernation if the little one hasn't caught up much.  :) 



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 03:25 PM

I'm not sure how long would you recommend wasn't sure whether to do 8 weeks or 12. The little one is tiny around 33 grams she doesn't seem to thrive like tiddles. She is the same age too maybe a month younger. Hopefully she will do well once tiddles is hibernating as if not I maý have to think about rehoming one as I literally don't have the space to house 2 separate enclosures indoors. I have plenty of room outside but unfortunately not inside. But im really shoping it doesnt come to that as i love them both. Thanks Amanda

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:02 PM

I'm not sure how long would you recommend wasn't sure whether to do 8 weeks or 12. The little one is tiny around 33 grams she doesn't seem to thrive like tiddles. She is the same age too maybe a month younger. Hopefully she will do well once tiddles is hibernating as if not I maý have to think about rehoming one as I literally don't have the space to house 2 separate enclosures indoors. I have plenty of room outside but unfortunately not inside. But im really shoping it doesnt come to that as i love them both. Thanks Amanda

Yes that's a good difference isn't it. I would go for 8 weeks with it been the first hibernation, hopefully the little one puts on a bit in this time but I can't see it been loads in the time scale given.  :) 



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:04 PM

Yeah I know. I'm just don't understand what the problem is with them and why they just don't seem to thrive together.
Anyway I will get there hopefully.
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 05:17 PM

Yeah I know. I'm just don't understand what the problem is with them and why they just don't seem to thrive together.
Anyway I will get there hopefully.
Amanda

Some time they thrive better on their own if they feel a little intimidated by the bigger one they will just let them finish all the food, I'm sure you'll see a difference in the little one with the break but once back together you might see the change return, only time will tell, keep us updated on the little one i'd be interested in it's progress.  :) 



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 05:21 PM

I will do thanks Karen. Yes the little one does seem intimidate by the big one but they were the same size when I got them. I'm hoping she thrives while alone and then I can see how I manage with 2 enclosures until hibernation.
I must say the last thing I want is to have to rehome one but if it's best for them then I will. I'm just hopeful that things settle. Thanks Again Amanda

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 07:59 PM

Hi Karen. When will i start wind down then? the beginning of Dec or earlier?
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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:27 AM

Tortoises do grow at different rates, but you'll see when these are apart if it's the bigger one causing the little one not to gain weight. 

Yes i start wind down at the start of December some time it's what works best for you really i just think at the minute it's still quite mild and there's still plenty of weeds around if you hibernate later in the year it's better as it's so much colder and not so much natural food available.  :) 



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 05:34 AM

Ok great, thanks for your help it is much appreciated.
I am hoping the little one does catch up. She seemed to like being outdoors in the Summer.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 04:08 AM

Ok great, thanks for your help it is much appreciated.
I am hoping the little one does catch up. She seemed to like being outdoors in the Summer.
Amanda

Hi Amanda, have you got these two in different set ups now, if so how's it going.  :) 



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:00 PM

Hi I've got it set up just waiting for the light holder and stand to arrive so should be any day now. Also I don't know if I've asked before but should I put the little one into the temp enclosure until tiddles hibernate or move tiddles for wind down?
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:44 AM

Hi I've got it set up just waiting for the light holder and stand to arrive so should be any day now. Also I don't know if I've asked before but should I put the little one into the temp enclosure until tiddles hibernate or move tiddles for wind down?
Thanks Amanda

Hi Amanda, am I right in thinking you said the room is really warm where the original table is, if so then I would set the new table up in a room that can be made cooler and use this one for Tiddle's wind down and leave the smaller one where he/she is.  :) 

I'm not sure if your on face book and I don't normally give out links to face book groups but if you are this is a really good group to join they put a post on daily for the wind down and members do it together which really helps https://www.facebook.../?ref=bookmarks:)  



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:10 AM

Thanks Karen. Yeah the enclosure is in the living room. So I will move tiddles. No I'm not on face book unfortunately but my husband is so could maybe get onto his for this group. The stand and bulb holder are on their way would a brick outhouse be too cold? Thanks Amanda

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:26 PM

Great news they have arrived. The temp enclosure is smaller will that b ok for tiddles 😊

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:39 PM

So the torts are now separate and things seem to be going well.
The stand kind of three me because what are you supposed to hang the lamp holder from. It didn't come with a hook attached like in the pic so finding it hard getting the temps right. Any ideas would be greatly welcome.
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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:52 AM

Great news they have arrived. The temp enclosure is smaller will that b ok for tiddles

Hi as long as it's not really small it'll be fine it's only temporary for a short period of time and wind down when their not as active.   :) 



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:56 AM

So the torts are now separate and things seem to be going well.
The stand kind of three me because what are you supposed to hang the lamp holder from. It didn't come with a hook attached like in the pic so finding it hard getting the temps right. Any ideas would be greatly welcome.
Thanks
Amanda

 

Hi it's good to hear their now separate the little one will do so much better on it's own for some time, are you sure the stand isn't broken do you have a picture so we can see what you mean.  :) 






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