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#1 Shabbaladd

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 04:49 PM

Hello, I have 2 Hermanns aged 4 years. They are brother and sister. I was winding them down ready to hibernate them but noticed Mr F hadnt pooped for over 4 weeks. He always does it in his warm bath, usually weekly. To encourage him to go he was having 2 or 3 warm baths a day but he still wouldnt go. After several enemas by our specialised vet he eventually passed some but the vet suggested he didnt hibernate this year in case of infection and to start feeding him again.
Mr F has pooped since ( only once). He is eating everyday but now it is getting on for another 4 Weeks since the last time. He isnt very active as he was desperate to hibernate but his eyes are bright and he looks in good health.
I dont really want him to have anymore treatment but he needs to go soon. Has anyone else had problems like this ? If I hadnt noticed he hadnt pooped and I had put him down for hibernation, would he have survived?

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:17 PM

Hi welcome to the forum.  :)

Hopefully Sue will be along soon as I think she would be better at giving you an answer especially with medication, just for a little more info what are you feeding them at the minute, also how are they kept i.e substrate/ enclosure. x



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:28 PM

MRs F is in the fridge hibernating. Their enclosures (separate) have a mixture of topsoil and coir. The heat is at 32’. They eat a mixture of sow thistle, dandelion and plantain at the mo as it’s all I can find. X

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:34 PM

Mrs F is hibernating in the fridge and all is going well! They have separate enclosures. The heat is 32’ and the substrate is a mixture of coir and topsoil. He is currently eating sowthistle, dandelion and plantain as it’s all I can find x

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:52 PM

Are you sure he’s not passed anything? They do eat each other’s poop in winddown. Hopefully your vet x-rayed first to be sure he was constipated and not empty. Think about how it takes weeks to empty! This is how long it’s going to take to get him to fill up again and they can’t poop until that process is complete, so weeks from when you aborted hibernation. Do NOT give more medication, this can be harmful to an empty gut. When feeding, add a little bit of opuntia or aloe to his diet, but really I’m thinking there’s probably not a problem. Do you keep and hibernate in a humid substrate? This is very important to avoid dehydration.

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 06:11 PM

Hi, He doesn’t do anything in his enclosure only in the bath. He is alone in his enclosure. Yes he had several xrays and the food was inside. I put a jug of water into his soil every day.

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 07:52 PM

Does he pass urine and urates?
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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:09 PM

Yes both

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 09:22 PM

Please could you describe the urates that is passed by the tortoise in question?
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Posted 16 January 2019 - 09:40 PM

It sounds as though he’s hydrated. Whereabouts in the gut was the food? Who is your vet please?

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 10:09 PM

His unrates are smooth so he’s not de-hydrated. The food was travelling down his intestine and in position to come out. My vet is Taylor & Marshall based in Shifnal nr Telford.

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 11:29 AM

There’s not a problem with a little food at the rear of the gut in hibernation. Mine often poop just after emerging. It’s the other end of the gut before digestion that’s the problem. Taylor and Marshall don’t have a specialist Chelonian vet. They used to have one that had a keen interest, but that’s about it. I think they’ve been a bit previous with your little one which would likely have been fine, as not dehydrated and very unlikely to be constipated. Time taken to pass poop is not really a sign of constipation. Hope they didn’t charge to much.

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 01:08 PM

Oh ok well this is somewhat reassuring! One of the vets there has torts herself so I hoped they knew their stuff however they wanted me to keep taking him back but I decided not to as I didn’t want him put through anymore. The bill wasn’t too bad. Thanks for your help.

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:56 PM

I know several vets with torts. I’d not take mine there though Not many vets have actually seen or studied wild tortoises, so just go by what they learned in vet school, which unless they decided to specialise is not a lot where torts are concerned. Maybe we can help you find a decent one

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:11 PM

That would be good! I was advised to take mine there by the breeder I bought them off but if I could access a better one then yes please.




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