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#1 Guest_tortoise_lover_*

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:58 PM

i found a website that sells torts and its like a supermarket it has a quantity next to the tortoise. it also offers a free viv which is bad. does any one else think this is bad. heres the address

#2 Guest_tortoise_lover_*

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:01 PM

im going to watch holiday showdown so ill be on tomorrow after school

#3 Guest_blondesarah_*

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:14 PM

There are many sites like this, but this is what makes me mad

#4 Guest_Henry_Flash_*

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:18 PM

And to make it worse buy a tortoise is a link sponsered by google so whenever you search for anything to do with tortoises its the first link that appears. :-(

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:38 PM

the only response to that website regarding the tort pellets is...


makes you want to scream..... having fallen prey to pet shop idiots, I just want to scream and shake them and find a way of showing them what damage they are doing to little tortoises with this stuff...

#6 Guest_l1277702_*

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 05:06 PM

Just tried to look on http://www.nathansto...es.com/Food.htm and I couldn't get onto it. Hope this means that he is changing his advice or removing the site altogether, and it's not just my computer playing up. Anyone else found this?
Beth x

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:59 PM

Thats where the people we had our first tortoise off bought it from, it was a horsfield as advertised on that link.
He was delivered to the people we had him off on Dec 21 2005, we had it off them on 4 Jan 2006 and he died last week on 4 Feb 2006, we had him one month. He died of runny nose syndrome which lead to pneumonia, took him to two vets but we couldnt save him, he must have been harbouring it for a long time.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:44 PM

Oh, I am so sorry, I want to cry for you. Being in exactly the same position as you and with the same problems, my heart goes out to you, really it does. I can appreciate the worry and sadness you went through whilst trying to revive your tort back to its healthy status.

It is criminal that these people can get away with it, and worse still, that they evidently just dont care one iota for the little torts.
Again, I am truely sorry to hear of your loss, I realise my views are absolutely no consolation for your misfortune.
regards and thoughts
claire. :-(

#9 Guest_george_hermann_*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:59 AM

I quote from the site "Hermanns and Horsfields tortoises were the two main breeds we all used to love to see in back gardens 30 years ago."

Note the use of the past tense "used to love to see in back gardens".
Due to incorrect dietary and housing information, all these lovable 1970s 'garden' pets are probably all dead x(

Let's not forget that these tortoises have a potential life span of 70+ years, so it's far from inconceivable that such tortoises of yesteryear shouldn't still be alive.

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:25 PM

My tortoise came from this site (she is very well looked after now and loved very much, so please dont anyone be mad with me ). When I got her she had worms; I know this isnt unusual for torts, but I guess that anyone concerned with a torts welfare would perhaps worm them beforehand. There is also some doubt as to whether she is the the breed of tort she was sold as!

#11 Guest_blondesarah_*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:32 PM

No one is going to be mad with you. I have brought tortoises from pet shops. I just think if we educate people about thease internet shops less with be sold from them and they might have to close down.

#12 Guest_george_hermann_*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:47 PM

A lot of us made the mistake of buying from some of these 'dealers' who claimed to be captive-breeding in this country. Only when you read forums like this do you realise what a grubby little trade it really is. Actually that should be grubby huge trade. The responsibility is now on me to give them the best care and attention I can, and if I fail that wonderful opportunity, then i'm just as big a parasite as the worm that George passed last week x(
Still, I could kick myself for my naivety in buying such tortoises. Any future acquisition will be genuinely captive-bred, i've washed my hands of the 'buy one get six free' profiteering of tortoise selling because it's unethical. x(

#13 Guest_jb14__*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 04:46 PM

I was going to buy my tortoise from one of these internt dealers not realising that they were not actually captive bread at all, and thought it was a great idea, until luckily I stumbled across this and another forum and found out what goes on and managed to get mine from a really great lady, and the advice you get afterwards from a proper breeder as well is second to none, and UK home bread torts very rarely have worms. It is great there are forums like this so hopefully more people will become aware, but i think most people would be sucked in by the claims these dealers make on there websites

#14 Guest_kirsty10_*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:56 PM

I've email Nathan to tell him he's an idiot and what I think he should do with his 'convenient' pellets!

#15 Guest_Tomatillo_*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 10:21 PM

I;ve also emailed Nathan pointing out the error of his ways and politly suggesting that in the interests of good tortoise keeping he should remove the pellet advertising .
Regards Laura (Tomatillo)

#16 Guest_Calamity Jane_*

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 11:09 PM

Here! Here!
Its terrible, You see Ads like this all the time and you feel like throttling them. :)


#17 Guest_steveecourt_*

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 12:26 AM

I have used this site and to be honest this was the best site I have used, and the owner was very helpfull and certain knew his stuff..

There are some site who merely sell tortoises, but this guy has a geninue interest and I would certainly use him again.

When I used him my tortoise were extremly well packed and delivery by a specialist animal carrier (TNT) again you can not fault them!

I have used a couple off site in the past and they have been shocking but this one was Great!

#18 Guest_blondesarah_*

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 08:27 AM

hi steve are you on about buyatortoise or the nathan one?

#19 Guest_george_hermann_*

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 04:53 PM

"My tortoise was extremely well packaged and delivered by a specialist animal carrier".

Shoved in a perforated box with substrate and a sticker on the side saying "Fragile Livestock" and "Do Not Store Below -10c".

God bless 'em, these online companies sure do take the stress out of buying stuffed-in-a-box tortoises. x(

#20 Guest_tortoise_lover_*

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 06:36 PM

thanks for all your replies tortoises should'nt be sold like this :(

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