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Posted 24 October 2006 - 10:17 PM

stealib hi I was wondering if anyone could help me we have today received our herman hatchling who is very happy although he does not seem to use his back legs when moving about he does stretch them out and draw hem back inside his shell and he can try and climb i guess weight bear on them is this normal he hatched in august many thanks

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 10:03 AM

I think we need Arnie to come in on this one - I'm sure he'll log on today. I'd be a bit worried if he isn't using his back legs at all when walking around, but Arnie has far more experience than I do. In the meantime, give him a nice warm bath (in warm water up to his chin) to keep him hydrated.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 11:20 AM

Hi Alison
Nina has told you what I would have said, give him plenty of baths and ask at your chemist for some calcium carbonate which will disolve hopefully in his bath water, he could be lacking badly in calcium, get him some cuttle fish too,
Do you have any Nutrabol or Vionate, you need a sugar shaker which I hear Wilkinsons are selling for less than a pound at the minute. and mix 2 teasppons of The vitamins supplement and 7 teaspoons of calcium, mix it together in the sugar shaker and add this daily on the food, Don't overdo it or it will stop him eating, he has to get used to it.
This could also be a sign of the Kidneys not working well, so the baths will flush them through too, but I'm leaning towards calcium deficiancy.
If this problem persists and there is no improvement after a couple of weeks, or the tort deteriates, then you must take him to the vets, If you give us an idea of the area that you live, we can point you toward a reccomended vet.
Did you get him from a pet shop or a good breeder? and have you mentioned it to them?
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 01:49 PM

stealib hi thanks for your replys I have mentioned it to the breeder and they say its because he is being lazy and being in a new environment we have been bathing him twice daily and also have added a sprinkle of nutrabol to the dandylion leaves he is eating happily and loves the bathing he is quite happy to move around the tort table.I live in Lincolnshire. :D

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 05:01 PM

Hello Alison
You still need some calcium carbonate, Nutrabol should only be given twice a week you can overdoes with it.
Try this link and get some lime stone flour if you can't get pure calcium carbonate, which would disolve better in water
http://forums.shelle...wtopic.php?t=27
Arnie

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 08:00 PM

Hi Stealib,

In your first post you said that your tort does not seem to move his back legs when moving around, and now you say that he seems happy to move around the tort table. Do you mean that he is moving around using his front legs only and sort of dragging his back legs? This does not sound right to me, and I think that your breeder saying that he is lazy is bizarre. The calcium/nutrobal/bath treatment that Arnie has suggested seems the best option for now, but if it doesn't improve then I think a visit to a good tort vet might be in order. Let us know how he gets on.

Nina

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 09:08 PM

Hi thanks for all of the advice and I will get the calciun carbonate that you have recommended straight away.Just to clarify he does move around the tort table but only by using his front legs he can move quite quickly doing this.Sometimes his back legs are trailing behind him and other times they are retracted inside,sometimes one leg is in and the other is trailing. When he is basking under the lamp he appears to stretch out his legs.The only time I have seen him use his back legs is when he is trying to climb.When he is in the bath both his front legs and back legs are out.The breeder has said that they have come across this before as well as the laziness that it is a change in environment.They have assured me that when he was checked before coming to us that he used all legs hope.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 10:47 PM

Hello Alison
Well done for getting the calcium it is what he needs.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with the breeder, losing their appetite, yes, I have found that, but only in poorly torts have I come accross non use of back legs.

As for it walking prior to you buying the tort, well we only have his word.
Did you pick the tortoise up your self, or was he couried to you ?
I'm sorry Alison, I think he will be ok in the long run, but this is a serious problem, the only thing good I can see, is that the tortoise is bright in himself which is a good sign.
I only want to help the tortoise, and I'm here if you need any more help
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 11:29 PM

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
The tortoise was delivered by courier.I thought we had found a good breader but now Im not so sure.What sort of things do I need to be looking out for in relation to his health ? We bought the tortoise to coincide with our sons birthday but i am reluctant to let him become more attatched than he already is as I am not sure we will have a positive outcome for our tortoise who is already one of the family.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 10:08 AM

Hello Alison
Don't give up on him yet, I'm sure with the care you will give him we can turn this round, I wondered if he had got bashed in delivery that's why I asked, he could be just badly bruised, it doesn't often happen, but I put 2 and 2 together and I'm sure if you had picked the tort up you would have seen this problem, so I assumed he had been delivered to you, it's still a long shot and I'm still veering toward lack of calcium. I know you will have to wait for the calcium to come but can you get some cuttle bone from the pet shop so he can have a go at that, don't go for the big peices rather the small they seem a bit softer for the tort to bite into.
I take it his appetite is still good?
Arnie

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:50 AM

hello yes his appetite is still good and we have cuttle fish for him already but this morning i can see a definate improvement in him as he is starting to use his back legs not all of the time but he will do a few steps using all of his legs and then drag for a while and then use his legs again he is still very active :-)

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 01:32 PM

That's excellent news! Sounds like he's really improving.

Nina
P.S. Did you get my PM?

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 03:21 PM

Hi its now saturday and he is using hie legs a little but not by any means frequently.I contacted the breeder again yesterday and was told once again that this is ok.I asked how long it would last and was told how long is a piece of string I am confused about this.I have followed all of the advice given here and not sure how long I should leave it.:-)

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 03:52 PM

Hello Alison
Tortoise metabolism is very slow and takes something that is wrong, a long time to get right, just be patient and keep doing what your doing, it seems to be working, it could take a couple of months to get him right, just hang in there.
Arnie

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 03:53 PM

Hiya,

If it's any help to you I'm taking my new tortoise, Owen, to a vet in Kings Lynn tonight just to make sure he's ok and to get him wormed.

I know that it's not right on your doorstep but they may be nearer than most.

I'll let you know if they are ok.

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 12:41 AM

Hi thanks to everyone for your advice about Billy.I thought i would update you with Billys progress firstly Billy is fine still not using his back legs but he has gone to spend some time with a more experienced tortoise keeper who is going to try and strenghthen his back legs.The breeder that we got him from has been fantastic in offering us advice and help and we received our second tortoise today and hopefully in a few months we will have billy back too.I felt the need to post this on here just to stress the importance of going to a reputable breeder who will be more than happy to help.I will keep you updated on Billys progress ;-)

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 01:34 PM

Hi Allison,

That's great to hear the your Billy is going to get some specialist treatment. Here's hoping he recovers fully and is back with you before too long. How's your new little tort? Do post a picture of him if you have time.

Nina

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 03:06 PM

Yes I too would like to see the new tortoise Allison
Arnie
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 05:09 PM

Hi just an update sad to say and despite all of the special care given.Billy passed away this morning.Thanks to everyone for their advice on helping him :D :( :(

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 05:38 PM

So sorry to hear about Billy. I really do think you did everything you could for him. Losing a pet is a horrible thing, and my thoughts are with you.

Beth x




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