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Posted 17 February 2007 - 06:15 PM

Hi there,
I have just got Tilley up from hibernation, she has been down for 8 weeks. No wee or poo's whilst in there, temps kept as recommended, all seeemed fine, oxygen daily, and checked on too.

She has been placed into her inclosure (table top) to heat up, and also placed into bath of warm water, fine to begin with, but then started to go crazy, her head has been very reluctant to appear, but eyes have been on and off open, she then went through a limp phase, where I really thought she was gone.... I even started to syringe feed her water, knowing (having read tort website info) that they need hydrating asap. Now she has moved again, but she seems to be acting very strange, do they often seem disorientated at first when waking from hibernation???? I am really concerned she is blind, again, having read the tort site, I dont know why that should be, as I followed the guidelines to a tee.

As this is the first time i have hibernated her, apart from what I read, I have no idea what to expect, any advice would be greatly appreciated..... Am I worrying about nothing, or do you think there is reason for concern?????

Please Please Please someone reply to me !!!

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 08:07 PM

Hi

I'm sure others who are more experienced with hibernation will come in soon. Did you put her straight under the lights? If so this will cause a shock to the system. You should put her in a box in a warm room and bathe as you said you have been. I'm not really sure part from this im afraid. sorry i couldnt be of more help

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 08:46 PM

thanks for your help, much appreciated, hope someone else can help further too???
thanks again for replying
claire

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 12:48 AM

Hello there,

Have read your message about the problems you are having with your tortoise. I'm afraid I am no expert. I haven't gone through the hibernating experience yet but its something I will be doing for the first time next winter. I really hope your tortoise is much better now.

I'm sure someone will come on to give you some expert advice as to what to do.

Best of luck

Pam

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 04:14 PM

Thankyou to those WHOLE TWO of you that made the effort to reply to my message,
Sadly Tilley passed away this afternoon at the vets, she was too weak even for the tube down and couldnt respond to the care the vets provided,
She will be sorely missed.(RIP)


What's happened to this site???? A year ago you couldnt fault peoples care, concern and responses, nowadays, you'll be lucky to get a response at all.... Great shame.

Thanks to those in the past who have provided fantastic help and advice.
Goodbye all, - all the best to you and your torts.
regards
claire

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 08:04 PM

Oh

I'm so sorry Claire for your loss, its such a shame.

SO sorry

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 08:22 PM

Hi Claire,

Have just logged on for the first time this weekend and am so sorry to hear about Tilly. I remember she had problems before - wasn't she Slovenian like my tortoise Godzilla? I'm convinced that you did everything you could for her, and it could be that she never really recovered from the poor start that someone less well-meaning than yourself gave her. :)

Just to let you know that I'm thinking about you and know what an awful time you're going through right now.

Take care

Beth x

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 08:53 PM

Hello Claire,

I'm so sorry that you have lost Tilly and that I was unable to give you any advice.

You must be having a really bad time at the moment. I've popped in thisevening to see how Tilly was getting on and was hoping to hear some good news. I am so sorry it didn't turn out well.

Best wishes Pam

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 09:14 PM

Thankyou all of you, Yes, right now I feel absolutely awful, empty and part of me feels angry, she was so young, and seemed to be doing so well. I would never have hibernated her had I any inkling that she would end her fate like this....
I do blame myself, was there something I did wrong.... all those kinds of feelings... only natural I suppose??
What makes it worse is the fact we hadnt seen her roaming around for 8 weeks (due to hibernation) and the whole 17 hours after that we did have with her were sick ones (not her normal self)....

She should have had so so many years ahead of her.....

sorry, I just really needed to vent that, really trying to brave it for the kids sake and havent anyone to vent the sadness too.

sorry also for the abrupt message earlier, I really appreciate the replies i did get, just felf desperate and lashed out I suppose... I do appreciate not everyone knows everything, I suppose you cling to the hope that they do and can help you...... Sorry again..
regards
claire :)

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 10:28 PM

Hi Claire, just wanted to say how sorry I am about Tilley. It sounds like your hibernation was done perfectly, try not to blame yourself.
Jo x

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 09:08 AM

I agree with Jo

Sometime like people torts slip away. Perhaps there was omething wrong (which u were not to know about) or perhaps it was one of those things. either way its always really sad. However, you have to think to yourself at least she went into hibernation as she would have done in the wild. At least she went in a kinder way then if she had gone and you had not hibernated her. (i hope this makes sense)

I guessed you were pretty angry yesterday. Obviously people cant be on here all the time which is a shame but there is nobody to blame in this situation including yourself as your tort was obviously dearly loved :)

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 09:09 AM

omg claire i have just looked where you are from and now i feel even worse for not helping. I live in po14

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:55 PM

I am so very sorry to hear that Tilley has died! I thought I checked in at least once over the weekend, but must have missed your post. You must be absolutely devastated! I had tears in my eyes as I read your message. Did the vet say what Tilley died from? It does occasionally happen that tortoises die in hibernation, but not very often, and no more frequently than they would in the wild, and I guess Tilley was just one of the unlucky ones, but I know that doesn't make it any easier for you. I am also sorry that there were so few responses to your original posting - it must have made you feel very alone. I'm sure the thoughts of all on this forum are with you at such a sad time.


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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:59 PM

Hi Claire

really sorry to read about what hapenned. Maybe it was too late for your tortoise by the time you knew there was anyhting wrong. It is possible that the tortoise was not quite right when he went into hibernation and therefore was weaker on wakening.

One of mine died recently and I found this very difficult to cope with and I have asked myslef many questions about the care I provided. Maybe he was not fit to hibernate but I thought he was and I followed all the guidance.

Its very hard to sit with a sick tortoise and watch him get worse. In my case I didn't have an option about not carrying on because I have another one that needs to be looked after. So I'm still a tortoise person even if a sadder one. I did not reply to your help message because I am not so sure if I know how to look after them now.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 02:23 PM

Hi Claire

Just to let you know the nearest tortoise vet to us is mr vawer in havant road, emsworth (his details are on the vets list above). maybe he can tell you why

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 07:39 PM

Thankyou all for your kind words, and again, sorry for lashing out.. I did feel very alone and desperate, but that is no excuse for how I reacted - sorry.
Thanks Jade for that contact, when I feel stronger I will ring them, right now I just cant go into it any further. feel too fragile (pathetic arent I?!?!)

I obviously didnt look hard enough for a specialist and certainly said to myself ages ago, that that really should have been an essential area I looked into prior to buying Tilley. (You learn by your mistakes hey, sadly to Tilley's detriment.)

We are having her cremated and are going to scatter her ashes along with our dog's, of 10years, who sadly passed away last July. Not a good 6 months this end...:-(

kind regards
claire

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 09:57 PM

I am so sorry to read about your loss. I can only imagine what you are going through. My prayers are with you.




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