Jump to content


- - - - -

Pics of my Hermann's Tortoise (50yrs+)


  • Please log in to reply
39 replies to this topic

#1 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:04 PM

Hi All!
Here are some pics of my Hermann's Tortoise 'BillyJoe'.I bought him back in 1981 when he was fully grown! Have him almost 30 years and would guess he is about 50yrs+ now!
I took these photos just an hour ago while he was basquing in the back garden!
Hope you all enjoy!
Regards
Freddy

#2 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE (Freddy McGavin @ May 25 2010, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi All!
Here are some pics of my Hermann's Tortoise 'BillyJoe'.I bought him in 1981 when he was fully grown! Have him almost 30 years and would guess he is about 50yrs+ now!
I took these photos just an hour ago while he was basquing in the back garden!
Hope you all enjoy!
Regards
Freddy

Here are some more pics of 'BillyJoe'!
Enjoy!
Freddy

#3 Guest_Dawn_*

Guest_Dawn_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:17 PM

Hi Freddie,

WOW! What a fantastic example!!! Now, can I ask you a favour please.....

Can you list (for my own personal research reasons*) the following things for me...

1. Billy Joe's diet - what does he eat: daily, for treats etc, please list everything that you give him now and have given him in the past 30yrs (obviously not a day to day list but just a list of the foods that he has on regular basis)

2. How does Billy Joe live? Does he live indoors? Outdoors? Both?

3. Does he have access to UV? Heat lamps?

4. Do you hibernate him? If so how? Fridge? Natural? Loft etc., and how long for?

5. Anything else that may be relevant!!!

If you'd rather not put it all on here please can you Pm me....thank you wub.gif

* actually Im just being nosey!!! lol!!!



#4 Guest_michele_*

Guest_michele_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 06:11 PM

Please let us all know,i want to be nosey as well

#5 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Dawn @ May 25 2010, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Freddie,

WOW! What a fantastic example!!! Now, can I ask you a favour please.....

Can you list (for my own personal research reasons*) the following things for me...

1. Billy Joe's diet - what does he eat: daily, for treats etc, please list everything that you give him now and have given him in the past 30yrs (obviously not a day to day list but just a list of the foods that he has on regular basis)

2. How does Billy Joe live? Does he live indoors? Outdoors? Both?

3. Does he have access to UV? Heat lamps?

4. Do you hibernate him? If so how? Fridge? Natural? Loft etc., and how long for?

5. Anything else that may be relevant!!!

If you'd rather not put it all on here please can you Pm me....thank you wub.gif

* actually Im just being nosey!!! lol!!!

Hi Dawn and Michele!
Here's the info you requested:-
1. Diet: Dandelion leaves,clover, garden grasses and weeds.Soft leafy lettuce e.g Butterhead and Little Gem. Occasionally some banana-only in small amounts though and as a treat.Also a little sliced strawberry,peach or tomato given rarely as a tasty treat. Leave him out some water.Also spray some on his lettuce.Leave down pieces of cuttlefish bone and grate some in powder form on his food.This helps keep his shell strong and beak trim!.Yes,give him weeds but give him more besides! When it comes to tort food, variety is the key!This helps keep him healthy and happy and ensures a long life!
2.Billy Joe lives in our 70ft long enclosed Back Garden. Here he has everthing he needs and is free to roam and basque in the sun as he pleases.We leave him out on summer nights when it is mild.If it's chilly we bring him indoors and he sleeps in a corner. We put him back out again next morning.
We don't use UV or heat lamps.He has acclimatised to Irish summers and is fairly hardy!
3.He has been hibernated every year since we bought him (30 years).During the onset of colder autumn weather he slows down,stops eating and starts to bury himself in the garden.This is not an ideal situation due to our bad winters and heavy frosts so we put him in a safely covered wooden box of garden clay(with some dry autumn leaves) and place him in the shed where he hibernates waking again in late spring (6 months).
4.Adult tortoises must be fed well during the summer .As they live off body fat during hibernation in the winter.Some people advise to put a handful of raisins into the hibernation box in case torts. wake up earlier than expected and are hungry.
Hibernation boxes need to be safe and secure from mice and other rodents.These can nibble at their shell and cause damage.
Putting a film of olive oil on the shell before hibernation can protect it against winter mould and dampness and it can also be used sparingly against rain and to give the shell a shiny and healthy appearance!Not to be applied though to torts skin or eyes!!!
5.Tortoises make great pets and are very little trouble.Mine is a bit of a daredevil and has got into a few scrapes over the years.They have great personalities and are known for their longevity.My tortoise 'BillyJoe' is now being introduced to a third generation of children.He could possibly outlive me and the only problem now is who I leave him to! ha ha!
Hope this info is of help!
Thank you everybody for all for your kind comments!
Regards
Freddy
P.S Love your waving tortoise Michele!!!

#6 Guest_michele_*

Guest_michele_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:32 PM

Oh that's so interesting,thanks for posting.Sometimes reading all these do's and don'ts ,don't feed bananas,put them in a fridge to hibernate only,not in a shed only feed weeds,have the uv on,heat lamp just goes to show yours is doing well all these years,with no fuss.
Thank you

#7 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (michele @ May 25 2010, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh that's so interesting,thanks for posting.Sometimes reading all these do's and don'ts ,don't feed bananas,put them in a fridge to hibernate only,not in a shed only feed weeds,have the uv on,heat lamp just goes to show yours is doing well all these years,with no fuss Thank you

Thanks Michele!
I should say also that baby and young tortoises need a lot of TLC and specialised treatment if they are to survive.So things might apply a little differently to them! Regards
Freddy

#8 Guest_Hettie_*

Guest_Hettie_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 08:06 PM


Hi Freddie,

Billy Joe is absolutely gorgeous!! wub.gif

He certainly looks well on the care you give him. I think we were advised not to put anything onto the shell, there are differing approaches to tortoise keeping, new findings made and contradicted as time goes by, but blimey... he looks great!!

Thankyou for sharing your pics and experience, we can all learn from each other. smile.gif

Paula x


#9 Guest_jay_*

Guest_jay_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 08:26 PM

Hi Freddie
You have a lovely looking tort Billy Joe,i was told to put olive oil on my torts shell when i bought him from a breeder but there were contradictions on this so i stopped,there's always different views on fruits,he sounds like a great character.
Jay,H and Becky

#10 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (jay @ May 25 2010, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Freddie
You have a lovely looking tort Billy Joe,i was told to put olive oil on my torts shell when i bought him from a breeder but there were contradictions on this so i stopped,there's always different views on fruits,he sounds like a great character.
Jay,H and Becky

Thanks Paula and Jay for your kind comments!
Regards
Freddy and BillyJoe!

#11 Guest_Dawn_*

Guest_Dawn_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 10:08 PM

Well, the reason for wanting to know - ok for being nosey - was your tort is 50+ and if you dont mind me saying so looks absoultly fantastic!!!! He has a near smooth shell, looks healthy etc, so whatever you're doing its obviously doing no harm! I too wondered as I know you've mentioned fruit etc, and I just wanted people to see how well your tort has thrived. We all sit here and say don't feed this, do it like that, dont do that blah, blah, blah..... but it just goes to show that we all have so much still to learn and I think that considering you probably have one of the oldest torts on this forum, you aint done to bad!!!! So I for one am taking my hat of to you!

Maybe we should all take a step back and let these shelled ones get on with it!!!! They know their own needs far better than we do!

PS I am not promoting a fruit led diet!!! Just that a little bit now and then wont do them any harm!

Right I'm of to bed! Night!!! xxx

#12 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE (Dawn @ May 25 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the reason for wanting to know - ok for being nosey - was your tort is 50+ and if you dont mind me saying so looks absoultly fantastic!!!! He has a near smooth shell, looks healthy etc, so whatever you're doing its obviously doing no harm! I too wondered as I know you've mentioned fruit etc, and I just wanted people to see how well your tort has thrived. We all sit here and say don't feed this, do it like that, dont do that blah, blah, blah..... but it just goes to show that we all have so much still to learn and I think that considering you probably have one of the oldest torts on this forum, you aint done to bad!!!! So I for one am taking my hat of to you!

Maybe we should all take a step back and let these shelled ones get on with it!!!! They know their own needs far better than we do!

PS I am not promoting a fruit led diet!!! Just that a little bit now and then wont do them any harm!

Right I'm of to bed! Night!!! xxx

Many thanks Dawn!
Goodnight from
Freddy&BillyJoe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

#13 Guest_Ozric_*

Guest_Ozric_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 10:23 PM

Freddy your tortoise is a fantastic animal and really rather special. What an uplifting story. Manymany tortoises from that time died and only a few managed to adapt to the very different conditions that we have in the UK.

With great human help this tortoise has found ways to survive and he really is a lovely tortoise. Can you tell us what his weight and length are? Also does anyone know what part of the world he may have come from originally?

Whatever, a super animal and he's found the right keeper as well -

#14 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 25 May 2010 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Ozric @ May 25 2010, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Freddy your tortoise is a fantastic animal and really rather special. What an uplifting story. Manymany tortoises from that time died and only a few managed to adapt to the very different conditions that we have in the UK.

With great human help this tortoise has found ways to survive and he really is a lovely tortoise. Can you tell us what his weight and length are? Also does anyone know what part of the world he may have come from originally?

Whatever, a super animal and he's found the right keeper as well -

Hi Oz,
Many thanks for your kind comments.I'm not too sure about BillyJoe's weight but suffice to say he's heavy! He's approx 9 inches long and as far as I know is an Eastern(Boettgeri) Hermann's Tortoise from Greece.It's a mild summer night here in Dublin at the moment so BillyJoe is sleeping outside in the back garden in the undergrowth!By the way got a chance to recommend your Raddiccio suggestion to another tortoise owner! It went down well so many thanks Ozric!
Regards
Freddy&BillyJoe

#15 Guest_wuz06_*

Guest_wuz06_*
  • Guests

Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:33 AM

What a gorgeous tortoise! His shell is so lovely and smooth! He certainly sounds like a hardy tortoise! It just shows what they are capable of and how well, given the right care they can adapt to our country!

Louise

xx

#16 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 26 May 2010 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (wuz06 @ May 26 2010, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What a gorgeous tortoise! His shell is so lovely and smooth! He certainly sounds like a hardy tortoise! It just shows what they are capable of and how well, given the right care they can adapt to our country!

Louise

xx

Thank you for your nice comments Louise!
Kind Regards
Freddy&BillyJoe

#17 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
  • Guests

Posted 26 May 2010 - 03:16 PM

    QUOTE (Freddy McGavin @ May 25 2010, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Many thanks Dawn!
    Goodnight from
    Freddy&BillyJoe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

    I fully agree with your sentiments Dawn! Tortoises know what they need!They have a great sense of smell and can distinguish between foods.Also, I've never heard of one dying from eating poisonous plants.They can distinguish between these also!As you say best to let them get on with it!
    Freddy

    #18 Guest_cyberangel_*

    Guest_cyberangel_*
    • Guests

    Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:13 PM

    "I've never heard of one dying from eating poisonous plants."

    Well I have heard of a tortoise dying because he/she ate Lobelia. Ok maybe a young tortoise, but better not to say tortoises know what they are eating and it will be safe. As keepers take this as gospel, and I am afraid its not true:0(

    #19 Guest_Freddy McGavin_*

    Guest_Freddy McGavin_*
    • Guests

    Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:24 PM

    QUOTE (cyberangel @ May 26 2010, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    "I've never heard of one dying from eating poisonous plants."

    Well I have heard of a tortoise dying because he/she ate Lobelia. Ok maybe a young tortoise, but better not to say tortoises know what they are eating and it will be safe. As keepers take this as gospel, and I am afraid its not true:0(

    Maybe this applies to baby and young torts.But adults are experienced and generally know what they're doing! Mine certainly does!
    Freddy

    #20 Guest_cyberangel_*

    Guest_cyberangel_*
    • Guests

    Posted 26 May 2010 - 05:52 PM

    There is also a difference between toxic and poisonous. Usually toxic plants can be eaten, but if eaten in quantity every year, their health is impaired over the years. And they can end up with renal problems.
    Poisonous plants can and will kill.




    0 user(s) are reading this topic

    0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users