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Posted 29 October 2005 - 12:13 PM

my four yr tortoise kelly who has never hibernated before is stil as active as normal! i think if i was to hibernate her i wouldu se the fridge method as it seems to b more stable but i dont yet hav a fridge! kelly has never seen a vet or been de-wormed - one it would cost a trmendous amount of money that i just dont have and also there arent any vets around tht specialise in tortoise or would no wot there tlkin bot!i dont know if this affects her hibernation - as u can c im very new to this!!
i dont want to hibernate her and cause her more harm - as someone said there are many tortoises tht come out of hibernation with illnesses, but i dont want to not hibernate her and this not b best for her - although shes fine now and she hasnt hiberaneted b4!
please dont bite my head of if iv made some stupid comments but i am expectin many people to disagree or think im stupid!
alladvice gratfuly recieved, becky and kelly xXx:-)

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 05:23 PM

Becky DON'T PANIC!!! Nothing you ask is silly and no one on this forum should say it is. Go and read Andreas post called "cat amongest the pigeons time" and you will see that she has 27 year old tortoises that have never been hibernated or wormed. My younger tortoises have never been hibernated and they are fine. My older tortoise does usually hibernate but it's been so warm in london lately that shes still active and eating so she may well hibernate later than uausl. Please don't feel pressured into doing something your not completely happy with,do what is best for you and your tortoise. Until now I really don't think there were many people who would own up to not hibernating their tortoises. Your questions are not silly and you should not feel bad asking anything.:)

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 09:41 PM

thnku very much for that vote of convidence!!!
when i posted before and asked about not hibernating everyone was in dismay and was dead against it! i cannot remember who it was tht replyed but hey!!
wot does everything think i should do!?
thnx for ur help xXx

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Posted 30 October 2005 - 06:21 PM

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 30-10-05 AT 05:37 PM (GMT) by tortoise_mad (admin)]Do what feels best for you and your tortoise.If say, your not completely confident with the freezer method of hibernation for your tortoise them don't do it this year. It's best to know what your doing or you may endanger your tortoises life. If the temperatures are not monitored properly then your tortoise could suffer long term or even die. If you want to keep her awake this year and you feel happier doing so then thats your answer. My five year olds have never been hibernated but my older ones are as thats what they are use to. As Andrea has said in her post, hers are 27 and they are checked regularly by a vet and are healthy. Don't feel pressured into doing something your not confident with. If your tortoise is winding down naturally and you have a cool place to keep her then just make sure shes totally empty of food before you hibernate her and that you monitor her during hibernating for any signs of ill health. Don't feel bad about asking, how do you think new mums must feel when they've just had their first baby.:)

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Posted 30 October 2005 - 08:34 PM

ye - kelly is also used to not hibernating as she never has before! when i first got her in january she should have been in hibernation obvioulsy, but she wasnt as she was as active as eva! as long as i keep it plently warm enough i think ill do as uv said and not hibernate her this year but really look into it and do it properly nxt ye - ill only rush it not and as uv said itll only harm her in the long run. :-) thnx very much for ur support - whn i suggested not hibernating last time i had my head biten off and was told tht it wasnt gd etc lol!

thnx again, becky and kelly

p.s so r u not hibernating ur 5 yr old this yr either??

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Posted 30 October 2005 - 08:47 PM

No, they have never been hibernated. The only reason I do with the older tortoise is because she wasn't originally mine and had been passed from family to family and very poorly treated, left in gardens etc and she does it automatically. I wouldn't try to change her now shes too old but my younger ones are so use to it that I let them do as they please. Mine will be awake all year and probably causing havoc as they do. Becky don't worry, your not alone, for whatever reasons people choose not to hibernate their tortoises, whether it be for health or even because they don't have somewhere cold enough and can't afford to buy a fridge, it's obvious now people have posted their views that not everyone does. It's better not to feel pressured into doing something your not confident with than doing it in haste and causing harm to your tortoise. Look into it more and then you may feel ready next year to do it.:)

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 12:55 PM

Phewwww.There is somebody else who doesn't hibernate their tortoise.When I first got my five year old tort I read an article from a vet who said he didn't feel it necessary to hibernate them.I have overwintered her because I was frightened of losing her(I lost one many years ago as a child).Her weight is perfect , she appears healthy and has just been wormed ,with the vet saying she looks very healthy.I am in two minds this year because I feel pressured to hibernate her,but why upset the applecart?Also,she seems to do her own mini hibernation where she sleeps in her house for 3 or 4 days without coming out.

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 02:05 PM

i got my tortoises this year max in july and charlie in september. i wont be hibernating mine this year as i dont feel i know alot about it yet plus i dont wanna put them at risk for my lack of knowledge , but i will deffo think about it next year.
dont let ppl bully you into doing something you dont feel ready to do. i have spoke to alot of ppl on ere and other forums who have told me that you dont have to hibernate a tortoise
take care
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Posted 03 November 2005 - 02:35 PM

Thanks Emma,at this precise moment she is basking under her lamp having just consumed a large amount of mixed salad.Thomasina(not very original,the kids named her) seems quite happy.As I said why upset the applecart.
Vikki x

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 05:23 PM

thnku very much to everyone!! it is gr8 to know tht alot of other people are in my shoes - gives me confidence! and yes i totally agree - i dont want to hibernate her yet whn i dont know enough as i would always beat myself up if somthing went wrong, il look into it for nxt yr and ill keep the temps up etc so tht she is ahppy throu the winter! aldso she has never hibernated so it would change her routine! thnx again, becky x x x

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 05:45 PM

Just goes to show how many people don't actually hibernate their tortoises but felt compelled to keep quiet just to fit in with other people on this forum. Do what feels best for you and your tortoise. It's great to see that people are now feeling able to express their views on this forum and admit to not hibernating their tortoise, it's not a crime after all. :)

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 06:49 PM

once people are told all the correct information about hibernation its up to them what they do. You can take a horse to water but you cant make them drink!
Some vets know all about the insides of a tortoise and how to treat illnesses, but don't always know how to keep them.

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 06:55 PM

once people are told all the correct information about hibernation its up to them what they do. You can take a horse to water but you cant make them drink!
Some vets know all about the insides of a tortoise and how to treat illnesses, but don't always know how to keep them.


I've yet to meet a vet that thinks tortoises should be hibernated, and I've sure seen a few.

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 07:14 PM

my vet told me not to hibernate mine

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 07:38 PM

It's the same with alot of vets these days. I reckon it may be because they see so many tortoises that have been hibernated badly and have to try and save them when Spring comes around. I suppose it's better for vets in a way. I've never had any problems with mine not being hibernated and my vet has never said I should.:)

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 09:21 PM

Vets who dont advocate hibernation dont keep them and know little about their husbandry in my experience.

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 09:26 PM

Vets who dont advocate hibernation dont keep them and know little about their husbandry in my experience.



I beg to differ on that,with respect my vet keeps them and has done for years, he only hibernates them when he breeds. So do alot of exotic specialist.:)

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:24 AM

I don't hibernate mine either Omare. I haven't been on this forum for a while due to others being nasty about my choice not to hibernate. I don't feel I have to explain myself, my tortoises are healthy and well and my vet checks them regularly. Each to their own I say.

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 10:26 AM


once people are told all the correct information about hibernation its up to them what they do. You can take a horse to water but you cant make them drink!
Some vets know all about the insides of a tortoise and how to treat illnesses, but don't always know how to keep them.


I've yet to meet a vet that thinks tortoises should be hibernated, and I've sure seen a few.


i agree omare my vet is the same

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 12:39 PM

Five years ago,when I first got my tortoise,I did alot of research on the internet and I came across an article written by a so called expert(I beleive it was a vet) who stated that he felt it unnecessary to hibernate tortoises because of the way we have moved forward in carrying for them i.e heatlamps , uv lights,not feeding dog food.I wish to god I could remember who wrote the article but I can't.At the end of the day trying to mimic their natural environment is not going to work totally as they are not native to this country.




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