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#1 Peter29

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:39 PM

Hi firends! My tort was hibernating well in box in my balcony with the temperature about 10 centidigree for monthes, but In Feburary the temperature is viberating so my tort wakes up in daytime and sleep at night. She is not found eating and drinking till now. Days before she spilt the cup and slept in wet cushion and quilt. I cleaned her "room" when I found that. I thought she is ok but today I see she has a stuffy nose and painful eyes, and she left brown discharge(like urates). I guess she must catch cold due to that time. And today I gave her a bath with the warm water mixed with amoxiciline. It seems that she did not like it as usual and choked by water and had a whistling breath. I am worried about her very much. Now I take her in my living room with the temperature above 20 centidigree and I plan to give her the treatment as above.
I am not sure I am right or not. I need your advices! And I am worried about her not taking food and early waking up.What can I do to help her?

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:37 PM

Peter, it sounds to me like you have a very sick tortoise. It sounds as if she has RSN (runny nose sydrome) which can be very difficult to get rid of and fatal on occasions. I am unsure what would cause brown urates, perhaps someone else can advise on that, but she may have more than one illness.

I appreciate that tortoise keeping is still quite new in China and you may have difficulty finding a reptile vet who knows what they are doing, but please try do so. In the meantime I really do not think that it is a good idea to try medicating her yourself.

Peter you have been a member of this forum for sometime now and I expected you to have read quite a bit of the forum, especially the hibernation topics, so I have no idea why your tortoise has a' quilt & cushion' it is a reptile, please throw these items away.

When a tortoise is hibernating it should not have or need any access to food and water.

Do you have a tortoise table or similar to keep her in inside your house? You now need to keep her up and not let her hibernate more this winter. You will need to keep her very warm, much warmer than 20°C. Don't worry too much about her eating at the moment, just make sure that she has access to water.

You did the right thing coming to the forum. It must be hard when you can't find help and advice in your own language, I am sure there will be someone else along to advise you more about how to deal with RNS if you can't get a vet. If you can find a vet please take her as soon as you can.

Please keep us updated as I am sure all the forum members will want to know how she is doing. I have my fingers crossed she will get well soon

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:10 PM

Peter, I think you must try and take your tort to a Vet, preferably one who knows about reptiles, particularly tortoises.
I would suggest you have a heat lamp with uv and a soil substrate for your tort to walk on. And offer warm baths daily.
Your tort may have RNS ( runny nose syndrome) which is particularly dangerous to a tort, which means you need a vets advice. X x x hugs x x


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:07 PM

Hello Peter
sounds like your tort needs to be seen by a vet,meanwhile keep her warm and plenty of warm baths so she doesn't get dehydrated.keep us posted.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:47 AM

Thank you for your care.I tried to find vet in my city but they are all specialized in dog and cat. Hermanni Tortoise came to China only a couple years ago, and it is really hard for me to find a person who know them much more.I sent emails to some professors in this field and ask help, but I do not know if I can receive their guidance in time.Today morning she could not open her eyes and she kept her head in her shell with arms out. I gave her a bath and she became better and made her eyes open with her arm. Obviously I see she breathe with her mouth and I took some photoes as belows.Now I have to enforce her to have some food with amoxiciline .I have to medicate her otherwise I have no choice.



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:51 PM

Hi Peter,
Sounds like your tortoise is very ill. If you can't find a vet the only thing I could suggest is to try and contact your nearest Zoo and seek the advice of a reptile specialist there. Hope this helps.
Take care.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

 I think Freddy just had a an excellent idea about the zoo.  I still really don't think you should give medicine yourself without any advice. Peter please keep us advised on Big Flowers health we all want to know how she is doing.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:30 AM

She did not wait for the specific medicine mailed this morning. And she will never touch the vegetables I send to her mouth and never touch my finger by her funny tongue when I do it. I feel so sad to see her silent and strengthless sleep and I feel so hard to accept her quick going without any farewell.Thank you Chrissyan,you remember her name Big Flower. She was like a baby of mine,she couldn't talk but the joy she brought to me was more than words.Now she only left a memory to me, I can not help recalling the happy time at the time when I stare at the late medicine and the specific food I ought to prepare for her.  I tried my best to acquire knowledges about her to give her a happy life, I tried my best to offer her a healthy and safe circumstance,I tried my best to look after her to protect her.I am so sad. The more I remember, the more I regret. I feel regretful and angry for my carelessness ,my empty head.I would rather never keep her than see her passing.But any way, many thanks to you ,Freddy,you always give me valuable advices and warm concern. And thank you Stella , Jay and those who gave me advices and help.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:18 AM

Oh dear Peter, it is very sad Big Flower lost her fight for life. Please do not be angry with yourself, although you didn't manage to save her you tried your very best in very difficult circumstances. It was the very best idea to use this forum for advice and support. Your last message made me cry for you, and for Big Flower, who had the best care possible. My heart goes out for you and I am sending you tight hugs to see you through this very difficult times x x x tight hugs x x

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:31 PM

peter im so sorry to read this about big flower, its so sad.

my heart goes out to you, take care.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:01 PM

Oh Peter, how sad I am that you lost Big Flower, I know how hard you tried to get information to help her, you must be very upset.

 

Have you thought about continuing your research into tortoise care and perhaps set up a website in Chinese to help other people new to tortoise care?  We would always advise you on the content, just a thought anyway.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

Hi, Peter, so sorry to hear of the loss of Big Flower, my condolences.

 

I think that's a really good idea by Chrissyan, the more information available the better.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

Peter,
I am so sorry to hear about Big Flower. Please accept my sincere condolences. My thoughts are with you at this sad time.
Deepest sympathies
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

Peter

I read this post with tears in my eyes it's so sad to hear of your sad loss of big flower,take care,

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

It hurts and it makes me feel heavy.I think I should not keep tortoises in haste unless I have enough time and correct circumstances.I am now still a college student in Shanghai and sometimes I had to leave my tortoises in my hometown.I have long been interested in tortoises since I was a child and I think I will not stop loving them.Thank you everyone for your concern.It is a good idea to offer information and experience to the new Chinese enthuiasts.Although there are several forum on reptiles and tortoises in China, but I don't think they are so professional in hermanni as this one.But now it is too difficult for me to set up a website because I don't major in computer technology and it is a too large project for me to correctly translate professional English into Chinese.But I will consider it.I will keep touch with the forum and you,dear friends.I will continue the research in tortoise care and I will help others as possible as I can in the hermanni tortoise group in China.



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

Peter, So sorry to hear of our loss of Big Flower.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:14 PM

Peter, So sorry to hear of our loss of Big Flower.
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Thank you for your care, Zhilla.






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