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#1 Sp4rky

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 03:59 PM

Just home from work to find my little guy hasn't moved since he went to sleep last night, usually gets up when his light comes on but obviously didn't this morning. He went to sleep under where his light is as well so he's been basking all day but asleep.

He's up now and went straight for food. Anyone know why he could of done this?

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:59 PM

Was up for about half an hour and now away back to sleep. Little bit worried!

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:27 PM

Are you sure he has not been up and about while you were out ;) If he has been sleeping under the basking lamp all day, he is at risk of dehydration as this is not natural. Has he had a vet check at all? Is your substrate nice and deep for him to dig down into? Normally when the lamps go off, they go off to dig down for the night. Temps need to drop to encourage them to do this, otherwise they will not remain hydrated and shell growth is not likely to be smooth due to insufficient humidity.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:44 PM

Not 100% sure but he was definitely in the same area and food hasn't been touched. Right ill give him a bath tomorrow and make sure he gets hydrated. He has water but rarely goes in it. He hasn't had a vet check yet but going to that organised this week.

Yeah he digs down and burrows every night when the lamp goes off, so temperatures must drop enough for him to do this.

I'll get an appointment scheduled at the vet and get him checked out. Hope he's okay

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 08:47 AM

Not 100% sure but he was definitely in the same area and food hasn't been touched. Right ill give him a bath tomorrow and make sure he gets hydrated. He has water but rarely goes in it. He hasn't had a vet check yet but going to that organised this week.

Yeah he digs down and burrows every night when the lamp goes off, so temperatures must drop enough for him to do this.

I'll get an appointment scheduled at the vet and get him checked out. Hope he's okay



Just make sure it is a recognised exotics specialist or it could do more harm than good - avoid vets who want to give vitamin injections etc, as this will show they do not understand the physiology of tortoises. I would think your problem is most likely husbandry related, but if you bought your tortoise from a commercial outlet, it's always best to get a parasite sample done ;)
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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:10 AM

My sister is a vet nurse at the practice and tells me there are 2 reptile specialists, one of which keeps tortoises himself so should be in good hands. What do you mean husbandry related?

I was looking at getting that done, got a link for the worming website so will get that ordered and get him tested.

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:24 PM

Most problems with tortoises if kept and fed properly are husbandry related rather than physical, in that a tweak with substrate, lamps, temps and humidity almost always rectifies the problem. Torts that hide away are either too hot or too cold or do not have deep enough substrate for example. The same can apply to most other behavioural problems. Most long term keepers/breeders rarely see a vet, whereas those with the odd pet kept under petshop conditions etc tend to see vets more frequently. When looking for advice on tortoise keeping, use the websites made my recognised authorities or breeders, rather than those relating to commercial outlets.

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 08:36 PM

Right I get you now. I've tweaked his lamp a couple of times to try and get him to go under it and out his hide. It's now down at 27 degrees. Is this too cold? Not sure how deep his substrate us maybe about 2 inches at most. Just waiting on his new table drying then I'll be putting him in there. I'll turn the light up as I think it might be colder than his viv. Not so much of a cold spot in there. I've got him booked in at the vets, seeing a reptile specialist who keeps torts so should know her stuff. When he was in the reptile shop he was kept in a table but got sold a viv. I'm going to get his worming tested just to be safe. Had a nice long bath and was dipping his head under the water which he's never done before so maybe He was dehydrated. Pee'd and poo'd as normal. Seemed happy enough after that, had a bask and a wander around and went to bed just before his light went out. Will see how he acts tomorrow!

I always feel like I ask too many questions on here but like to be safe. Thanks for the help!

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:46 PM

Yes, that is too cool for basking - they need 30 degrees to digest their food properly and like to bask up to around 32 degrees. The hot spot should be at one end and deep substrate or hide area at the opposite end. The substrate should be watered to increase humidity. Temps need to drop considerably overnight. If he has been kept in a viv, he will likely be confused, so you will need to bury him overnight to get him into a different regime. Hydration is naturally higher in a viv, so you will need to make sure humidity is pretty high until he gets used to the change.

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:19 AM

I'll get it turned back up today then. Yeah it's at one end and he has a hide at the other. He burrows before he goes to sleep. I'll make sure I do that. I know they don't like drastic change. How will I keep humidity up in his table? Water the substrate more regularly?

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 08:57 AM

Just make sure the substrate is always damp on the base and the humidity will take care of itself. It only works if it is several inches deep though, otherwise it dries out too quickly indoors.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:24 AM

Okay doke will do. Thanks




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