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#1 pam

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:13 PM

Hi I have a 3 year old hermanns, who up until a couple of weeks ago was outside, but since bringing her in ive noticed shes not very active, and is burying herself in the soil, at first I thought it was due to her been in a new enviroment, she will only get up if i actually get her up and put her under the heat lamp, she eats a little then toddles of back to bed, I have checked temps etc which are fine, I had her at the vets on Thursday (replitle specialist) who said couldnt find anything wrong with her gave her a vitamin jab, and said maybe raise temps slightly to see if that helps, he has also sent of a poo sample to be tested, any one got any ideas.

 

 



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 02:42 PM

Hi pam
It could be just that she know hibernation is approching as of day light hours are getting shorter,even tho theyre kept inside they still detect this.as for the vitamin jab i would of said no to this as this can cause problems!hopefully some1 more experienced will come along soon
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:19 PM

Hi, Pam, I have to agree with Matt; now the weather's changed, torts are naturally slowing down preparing for hibernation; my Harry's become very inactive this last week or two, so I'll venture a guess at saying that your tortoise is naturally responding to the seasonal change.

I'm certainly no expert whatsoever, but I have heard that vitamin injections are pretty useless; I'm hoping that one of our senior members like Sue (Wizzasmum) will be able to advise you further on this.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 08:01 AM

I heard this too Graham,from sue (wizzasmum) about the vitamin jabs,im guessing if your feeding your tort the correct diet and supplimenting with nutribol or neckon msa then theres no need for the jabs whats so ever..my little friends are less active too now so hopefully keep them going to the end of the month then start the wind down :)

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 08:33 AM

She has never been hibernated, and i cant remember her doing this last year, she is fed on a natural diet weeds, flowers etc and regular supplements.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:08 AM

Even tho shes never hibernated before its natural for them to start slowing down now this time of year,its built into them to do so.i would hibernate her this year as its far much more better for her

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:54 PM

Hi I have a 3 year old hermanns, who up until a couple of weeks ago was outside, but since bringing her in ive noticed shes not very active, and is burying herself in the soil, at first I thought it was due to her been in a new enviroment, she will only get up if i actually get her up and put her under the heat lamp, she eats a little then toddles of back to bed, I have checked temps etc which are fine, I had her at the vets on Thursday (replitle specialist) who said couldnt find anything wrong with her gave her a vitamin jab, and said maybe raise temps slightly to see if that helps, he has also sent of a poo sample to be tested, any one got any ideas.

 

 

Hi there

This is normal behaviour for tortoises at this time of year. Most alarming though is that a vet who claims to be a reptile specialist is giving vitamin jabs. These have been proven many years ago to be totally ineffective and at this time of year, when it is natural to be slowing down, can upset things drastically. Also, a genuine specialist would not be sending a simple faecal test away unless he was looking for something that cannot be found through a normal smear or flotation. Are you sure the vet is a specialist or just someone who sees tortoises now and again? The fact that this is new to her could be for many reasons - could be that she is fitter than she has been, so acting more naturally, could be that the short intense summer has had more of an effect on her natural behaviour or it could be that she genuinely isn't well. How do you keep her ie temps, lighting etc and what do you feed her on?



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:49 AM

yes the vet is a reptile vet and has been for many years, she is fed on weeds and flowers, aand nexton supplement and is on a table has a uv strip approx length of ther enclosure, and a halogen heat lamp temps at hot end 32/34 and around 22 other end, he sent po sample of to be tested for worms.



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 03:39 PM

yes the vet is a reptile vet and has been for many years, she is fed on weeds and flowers, aand nexton supplement and is on a table has a uv strip approx length of ther enclosure, and a halogen heat lamp temps at hot end 32/34 and around 22 other end, he sent po sample of to be tested for worms.

Would you mind PM'ing me this vets name please as if he is on my recommended list, I would like to remove him. Even many non specialist vets know not to give vitamin injections for many reasons and any old vet can do a quick faecal sample. This is outright exploitation and no doubt a target vets. Sorry to sound so negative, but this makes me so cross. If you do not want to PM me re this, you can see who my recommended vets are on www.tortsmad.com/vets.htm  If they are not there then that's fine ;)



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:24 PM

Hi i thoughti would give a quick update as to how Daisy is doing, well there's little change im stil getting her up every day for her soak, she doesn't seem to be eating much the last couple of days, sometimes she goes to the side of the table and stays ther all day till the lights go off other days she has a wonder a few nibbles of food then digs down again, I was going to take her to another vet just for peace of mind, if its her way of telling me its time for hibernation then thats fine il have to invest in a decent fridge and be prepared for lots and lots of questions.

Just one other thing if she is naturally slowing down, according to jacksons ratio she is too heavy!



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:42 PM

Overweight is very unusual in an inappetant tortoise. Do you have pics of her? Are you measuring her correctly as in straight line from end to end and not the plastron measurement?



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:05 PM

Yes im measuring correctly, ive googled it lol,il take a photo tomorow and re-measure her, how do i put pics on ?



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:11 PM

You need to link them from photobucket or similar or you can send them to me or a mod and I/they will put them on for you ;)



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:08 PM

 how do i put pics on ?

 

You can either add files by clicking on the "More Reply Options" if you scroll down below the reply box, then attach a file.

 

Otherwise make a Photobucket account http://s1125.photobucket.com/ , upload your pics, then copy and paste the IMG codes into your posts so that the pictures are imbedded.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 01:30 PM

hi here is a pic of daisy i hope it works
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I have re-measured her and she is 8.8cm and weighs 150grams, I took her to aiother vet yesterday who gave her a good check over and done a blood test and said she was in very good condition including size shape etc, he said to keep an eye on her wieght and if she stays the same its ok to hibernate her, but if I have any concerns to take her back.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:07 PM

Hi pam thats great news,yes daisy looks in good health but watch out for pyramiding as i can see the scutes are starting to become raised so make sure keep the substrate damp and give plenty of calcium. :)
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

Hi pam thats great news,yes daisy looks in good health but watch out for pyramiding as i can see the scutes are starting to become raised so make sure keep the substrate damp and give plenty of calcium :) also dont over feed causing her shell to grow to quick :)
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