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#1 gaztplymouth

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 04:56 PM

Hi all,

this is a bit of a rant about the vets today

 

Took Bob to the vets to day I had to go to the veterinary hospital in Plymouth to see a reptile specialist,

Bob was ok just need a poo sample to check for worms but…

 

The vet sounded like he didn’t know a lot about Hermann torts because he contradicted his self quite a bit and gave some advice that I did not like and I think you all will not like it as well.

A couple of things he mentioned was I should increase the heat from  his hot spot to 40c (I have 30-32c at the moment and increase the cool end to 27-29c.  I should put two hides for him in there one by the hot spot and one in the cool end. When I sead he is a digging tort and he will dig to rest/ get out the heat or cold he seemed a bit off and the wife kicked me when I sead it’s a med tort and were in the med hits 40c every day??

 

He gave me some hand outs about feeding, housing and bathing  the housing part is terable  it saying 50/50 topsoil and sand or newspaper , Astroturf, cat litter and carpet tiles.

there was more he went on about but I sort of zoned out, he sounded like he only knows about desert torts than med torts.

 

Rant over I was annoyed I had to go all the way there to pay someone talk rubbish to me.

 

PS my tort is 55g and about 2 1/2 inch long can some one give me an idea of its age?

 

Thanks for all you help.

Gareth

 

 

 



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 06:00 PM

Hi Gareth
Yes your totally right that vet didnt have a clue!id be having a rant too if i got given that advice by a vet! 40c!!!!!! Christ he would last long under that heat and putting hides under the heat spot at that temp will end in disaster!god that makes me angry!
Regarding the substrate,cat litter is a new 1 to me,ive heard it all now lol
Regards matt

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 06:03 PM

As for the age,didnt you get papers with it as this will state what year it was hatched?

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 06:59 PM

Hi Mat

its an import, i got its licence with a date of march on it but don't know if that is its DOB or import date, if it is only 3 months old im thinking it has been growing to quick before i got it, its shell looks good and smooth so that is making me think its older. 

 

i don't wont to hibernate it if its under a year but if its older i will,

 

just thinking because i need to start getting bits for hibernation if its over a year because i am away for winter and the wife will be doing it so wont it sorted for November time so its as painless for them both. i.e getting a small fridge for it and checking the temps over a cupple of weeks and getting the box sorted for it.

 

thanks

gareth



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 08:49 PM

Hi Gareth
In section 4 description of specimen it should say when it was hatched!i havnt updated my papers but mine says,one live unmarked tortoise with a plastron length less than 100mm,hatched for example 2006.
As for hibernation i would hibernate him this year if it was me as at this age its really important due to growth and bones,if not tho make sure you cut the food intake right down as you dont really want him growing over the winter period

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 09:58 PM

How disgusting that someone can call themselves a specialist and not only know so little, but give information that could actually kill your tortoise. 40C is conducive with death and at these temps in the wild you will never find a tortoise, they will all be dug in until the sun drops in the sky. They also need to drop in temps to below 15 degrees overnight, to allow the metabolism to rest. I wish all vets were required to study animals in their natural habitat before being allowed to sit any exams on their care and certainly before giving advice  to anyone at all. Where is the sign for hitting someone over the head with a big hammer lol? I would not have paid for that service. The torts age can't be determined exactly if it is an import as there is no guarantee that they were captive bred or even farmed. Cat litter expands when wet and would kill if eaten. At 3 months of age it would normally weigh under 20 grams. Hibernation is more down to size than age and I hibernate anything over 30 grams, but I do know of someone who found babies in the ground at the end of winter, so they had hatched and hibernated before even emerging.

Thanks for the info re the vets, I will make sure they never go on my recommended list. :dry:



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:11 PM

I didnt know that sue so mine could be older than i first thought then!it disgusting of most vets knoweledge on torts,what hope do they have!

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:42 AM

Hi, I think it's so frustrating how many vets are not knowledgeable on tortoises, it can be hard to find a good one, the worst thing is if people have done no research at all they will take the vets word and maybe make these changes, which might not have the best out come. :rolleyes:






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