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#1 h20

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 05:23 AM

Can someone please tell me if there is a safe distance a uvb tube light should be above a tortoise?

Can it be too close?

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 11:06 AM

The manufacturer will put this on the box. I have mine around six inches away, but it does depend on the individual lamp.
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Posted 04 July 2015 - 11:09 AM

http://www.uvguide.c...nttubeintro.htm

This will explain things more clearly.
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Posted 04 July 2015 - 02:00 PM

We have the Zoo med repti sun 24 inch 5.0 uvb F18T8....can't find anywhere on the box that says what the distance should be...any ideas?

 

 

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 05:58 PM

You can practically put a 5% one anywhere. Personally I use nothing less than 10%. You will need a good reflector with that to get enough uvb to them.
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Posted 04 July 2015 - 06:00 PM

We always use a reflector. So if we changed to a 10,how far away must it be from the tortoises?

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:03 AM

Hi yes i agree a 5% is used for forest dwelling reptiles which require low uvb levels but hermanns require high levels,i put mine like Sue said around 6inches away
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 10:47 AM

We always use a reflector. So if we changed to a 10,how far away must it be from the tortoises?
Thanks.


As low as you like really, unless the manufacturer states otherwise. Not so they can touch it obviously ;)
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 05:43 PM

Thanks to you both for advice...I think the only reason we use a 5% is because that is what was recommended by a reptile shop...we were told a 10%was for dessert species and too powerful and Hermanns were from Europe and didn't need that much uvb.



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Posted 05 July 2015 - 06:11 PM

Just shows how much reptile shops know, that is totally shocking advice. If your reptile shop manager had ever been to the Med and measured the Uvb levels there maybe he would Think again. Next time you go there, ask them what they think the uvb levels are on the 'other side ' of Europe lol
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 06:21 PM

You can see how many people get it wrong though can't you...we don't go in that shop anymore thank goodness lol.

Thanks for the advice...was going to order one from Swell but they are out of stock at present...looks like they are popular lol.



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 07:29 AM

Sadly, this is just one reason so many little tortoises fail to thrive and why they should not be a commercial item, ever! They can't tell us how wrong things are until it is too late. It does make you wonder where these outlets get their info, or whether they make it up according to what stock they need to sell. Very sad indeed :(
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Posted 06 July 2015 - 07:05 PM

Before I asked on here for advice regarding the uvb lights I emailed Zoo med and have just received a reply...it says...

"The 5.0 bulb will be fine. You choose our 5.0 or 10.0 bulbs based on the distance the bulb will be from your tortoise. If you have to place the bulb further away
than 12 inches then go with the 10.0 bulb.
Kind Regards,
Jennifer Shamblin
Customer Service"


Confusing or what.



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 08:19 PM

The info they have given you is not quite correct ! Shame considering they are supposed to be the manufacturer! I would re- read the uv guide again ;) there are also uvb forums you could join which are quite helpful ;)
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Posted 09 July 2015 - 04:18 PM

Are these Arcadia T8 tube lights better than the Zoomed Reptisun 10?

http://www.reptiles....p-t8-57099.html

Sorry for all the questions..thanks.

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 06:12 PM

Hi,

I use the T5 tubes and have found them really good, I know some people have done tests on them and highly rate them. :)  http://www.reptiles....uvb-282650.html



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 07:09 PM

Hi,
I use the T5 tubes and have found them really good, I know some people have done tests on them and highly rate them. :)  http://www.reptiles....uvb-282650.html


Thanks...OMG it just feels so confusing...the more lights there are the more difficult it is to choose one.

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 02:48 AM

Yes there's loads of different ones out there, I think it's what works best with your set up, for a strip uv you wont go wrong with the T5, or for a combined bulb I find the Mega ray bulb really good. :)


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 07:39 AM

Have spoken to man at Arcadia and he said because we have a large area to light up and two tortoises we should go for this...see link

 

LINK: http://www.reptiles....ood-375071.html

 

He said..."use a product called the D3+UVFLOOD and stand. This is a high output T5 12% UVB system that projects light and energy from light over a targeted area and for VERY little cost" 

 

Was advised to fit it 10" from the top of the shell at the basking point and to use a 75w Halogen basking spot.

 

Then he said....

Please watch this short video by televisions Dr Mike Leahy to see it in action  https://vimeo.com/132942515

 

Then recommended a thermostatically controlled heat source...a 75w Halogen basking spot as they produce far more heat per watt used than tungsten, they cost less to run.

LINK: http://www.reptiles....pot-243340.html

 

What do you think?

 

Looks like the T5's are the way to go and the flood seems really good...anyone got one?



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Posted 12 July 2015 - 09:19 AM

Hi
yes i use the d3+ 12% but i use the normal stripe tube but the flood should be fine :) also these bulbs last to around 12months before needing to renew but cheaper ones on the market need replacing around 6months i think.mine only get used either side of hibernation in the cooler months so last ages as outside all summer
Regards matt
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