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#1 Slothy85

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:17 PM

Hi everyone,

Im new to the forum and tortoise ownership. Ive have had Hector for around two months and he was one year old when I got him. It was a surprise at first and a little scary but I quickly fell in love with the little fella.

I had done lots of forum reading and have a substrate of 100% topsoil. He has a water bowl in a terracotta plant pot saucer and places to hide such as a patially buried plant pot on its side. He has a desk lamp for heat which provides 32 degrees under the light and another bulb for UV (both on 14 hours a day). I bathe him every day and have recently done so more than once a day or extended his baths.

The reason Im posting is that I am worried about a changd jn behaviour. A couple of weeks ago he was regualrly marching around his table making a right mess of the water bowl and dragging his food all over the place. He was regularly pooping almost every time I bathed him he would do a greeny brown poop and sometimes some white stuff (cant remeber what this is called). He had a good appetite and was eating dandelion, clover, salad leaves like lettuce and rocket some bramble shoots amd use a little calcium powder each time.

I went away for a week and a friend popped in to bathe and feed him the week before last (his lights were on a timer). Since I have come back he has been very lethargic the differnce is lile night and day and he is hardly eating anything at all. Also he is not pooping like he used to they are much smaller and not the dark green brown green colour they were before. I am very worried about him but at the same time am not sure whether it is normal. I am not planning on hibernating him as i do not feel confident with this. I am worried he might be winding himself down regardless of my intention!

Hector came from a uk breeder (I am in the uk) with the certification. My parter bought him for me and I know she did a lot of research and sas careful with her choice.

Sorry about the long post but just trying to fit everything in and Im sure I have missed out lots still! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 05:04 AM

Hi welcome to the forum. :)

Have you spoken to the breeder at all about this, as they should be able to give you advice on this and how the other hatchling are.

At this time of year they can start to slow down it's just natural to them, I think you just have to be careful with dehydration in little ones, I would say having the lights on for 14 hours a day is too long, are you watering the substrate at all, and what uv are you using, also does your table have plenty of light, as it's heat and light that make a tortoise active. :)



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 07:13 PM

Hi, thanks for the reply amd the welcome :)
Ill give the breeder a call and see what they say.
I am trying to keep him hydrated through baths. He has seemed a little more active today.
I am using a uv lamp like one of those energy saving ones. I am planning in the future to change to one of the ones that is suspended above the table and provides heat and uv as i beleive this will be better and provide more of a spread of heat across the table.
How long do you reckon I should d keep the lights on?
I think i should water the substrate more. I havent done this regularly and it was very dry when I got back. He has never burrowed in it when it has been either moist or dry.
As I am at work all day I dont get to view a lot of his behaviour and have to make guesses on what he has been up to from the state of his home.
Are there any external signs of dehydration I can look out for?

Thanks again :)

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 02:59 PM

Hi,

I turn my lights off when I get in from work as their normally all asleep then, there's no point running the lights when their asleep, also it's better for them to sleep in a cooler area. :)

Have you tried feeding after a bath, as you say its hard to know what they have been up to through the day when your at work all day.

I agree with you regarding your lights I would try and change them when you can, I use a mega ray bulb for my hatchlings and their up every morning here you go.  http://www.megaray.c...b5b1c851d45e646

It's best not to let your substrate get too dry, maybe try and water it a little more regular see if that helps. :)



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Posted 24 September 2015 - 06:25 PM

Thanks for the advice :)
Hector seems a bit better today and has a bit of apperitie and a bit more energy. No signs of much poo yet.
I was so scared when I got home as he was on his back and his neck and legs were limp. I ran over and was so relieved when he moved.
He has been on his back a couple of times. He appears to like walking straight off sheer drops. Im considering making his table almost flat just to keep him safe when I am at work.
I wanted to post some pictures but cant work out how to from my phone :(

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 02:59 AM

It's scary to find them like that, it might be best to make sure any thing you have in the table is dug in so it's not too high for him to climb over, it's still best to keep some stuff in as they use it to right them self's at times. :)

Im not quite sure how to add pictures to the forum from your phone, it's not some thing I've really looked at, maybe Matt might know when he's on next. :)



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Posted 30 September 2015 - 06:59 AM

Hi. I'm sorry tonsay that little hector went downhill rapidly last night and died this morning.

When I got home yesterday he was asleep. I put him in a warm bath and then he started running around and appeared panicked. When I took him out he was limp and barely moved. A few hours later he started gasping for air and then a couple of hiurs later mucus was appearing from his mouth and nose, this was about 1am.

I feel so bad for the little guy as I dont knwo what we did wrong. I only knew hin for a short while but we had all fallen in love with him.

RIP Hector x

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 08:28 PM

I'm so sorry to hear this, it upsets me greatly when I hear of one of our forum torts passing away.
Please don't beat yourself up, it was most probably due to something you couldn't have prevented. I do hope you'll soon acquire another little tortoise to love and give a good home to.

RIP Hector x

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:09 PM

Thanks Graham we appreciate your message. The little fellow is sorely missed. When I do get another one to love I think I will be a tortoise hypochondriac!

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:38 PM

Aw that's sad

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 04:53 AM

Hi. I'm sorry tonsay that little hector went downhill rapidly last night and died this morning.

When I got home yesterday he was asleep. I put him in a warm bath and then he started running around and appeared panicked. When I took him out he was limp and barely moved. A few hours later he started gasping for air and then a couple of hiurs later mucus was appearing from his mouth and nose, this was about 1am.

I feel so bad for the little guy as I dont knwo what we did wrong. I only knew hin for a short while but we had all fallen in love with him.

RIP Hector x

Hi,

Im so sorry to hear this it's really sad, as Graham has said there was probably problems there that you couldn't have prevented. :(






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