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GeoHiccup

Member Since 08 Mar 2017
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Very New, Seeking Advice :)

20 March 2017 - 06:24 PM

Hi all, I've only posted on here once before as I'm currently gathering lots of info whilst saving for my little hermann. I believe I have everything in order other than hibernation which I am currently researching.
Obviously there's varying times on the wind down period and hibernation periods depending on who you ask/what site you visit, however I just wanna get some opinions from actual tort owners and their personal schedules :)

 

One site, The Tortoise shop, reccomends this (I've shortened it to get the general feel of the page/advice they give):

"The perfect temperature for hibernating is between 3-7°c constantly...We strongly suggest the fridge method for hibernation. We find this to be the safest and most effective method available. A domestic fridge temperature is around 5°c and opening the door for a few seconds daily will ensure adequate air supply....

Whilst going through the starvation period the tortoise must have a full bladder. We recommend daily bathing throughout the wind down process; this will ensure that the tortoise is nicely hydrated.

When your tortoise has an empty gut and a full bladder you need to be sure that you hibernate the tortoise in the right location – where your tortoise isn’t going to freeze but is also not going to wake up early due to warm weather."
Their hibernation time periods are a little bit higher than those I ahve compared them to, also?:

1 year = 3 weeks

2 years = 6 weeks

3 years = 10 weeks

4 years = 16 weeks

5 years and over = 22 weeks
Full page: http://www.thetortoi...ise-hibernation

 

Secondly, I looked at hermann Tortoise.co.uk :D
This is the general advice they gave sumemd up:
 Age    

  Starvation / wind down  Hibernation length   Hatchlings 1st winter 14 days Max 8 weeks 2nd winter 18 days 8 weeks 3rd winter 20 days 8 weeks 4th winter 22 days 12 weeks 5 years 26 days 16 weeks 6 years + 28 days

Max 20 weeks

The tortoise is to be given NO food during any stage of the wind down period.
It is very important that they are given ample opportunity to drink and are kept fully hydrated.
Bath your tortoise every other day which as well as hydrating your tortoise it will also
encourage it to empty it's bowels. I do recommend bathing 1 -3 year old tortoises every day. The wind down period should be split into 4 stages.

They then posted this

 

Age of tortoise

  Stage 1 Stage 2  Stage 3    Stage 4 Hatchlings 1st winter 4 days 4 days 4 days 2 days 2nd winter 5 days 5 days 5 days 3 days 3rd winter 5 days 5 days 5 days 5 days 4th winter 6 days 6 days 6 days 4 days 5 years 7 days 7 days 6 days 6 days 6 years + 7 days 7 days 7 days 7 days

 

They also have 4 stages to the build up of hibernation which says turning on the basking light should only be in time with the natural sun e.g. it won't be up for many hours in the winter which seemed very realistic to me, is this a good idea granted the temp doesn't go down to dangerous levels, I could get a frost guard or tubular heater to keep him/her warm whilst basking light is off?

 

The advice I'll take from both of these is probably a happy medium, between them both?

 

Also, does it matter what time of the year/month you hibernate? Obviously in the winter but when you're only hibernating for only say 6 weeks, does it matter what month as it will still be cold when they wake up?

 

Sorry for the long read, any advice is welcome :)

Georgia :)


Advice Needed For Major Newbie!

11 March 2017 - 07:28 PM

Hi all, my very first post here and Ive got many questions :D

I haven't got a tortoise yet but have been doing extensive research into them and have decided on a hermann.
I'd like to list all the items I will eventually get, it may be as long as next summer until I actually get everything together including the hermann, however I like to prepare well in advance :)

 

I've done research and decided on a tortoise table due to eharing of respiratory problems caused by viv's as well as the natural basking instinct being messed with by the overall warm insulted viv.

 

1: Tortoise table, 4 feet by 2 feet and 8 inches tall http://www.thetortoi...use-no-contents

2: Combined Mega Ray 100w, I thought this would be useful so he/she will ahve a basking spot and his/her UVB needs will be taken care of, do you recommend this? http://www.megaray.c...sted-p-145.html

3: Food and water bowl
4: I have heard, and want to do more research into, the fact that they like to burrow/dig a bit? Would Arcadia Earth Mix be alright? I get it for my Crested Gecko as she likes to burrow sometimes for eggs http://www.reptilece...tm#.WMROxKJBrIU
5: Plants, I've looked into the number of safe plants for tortoises and have heard some things about fake plants being a hazard if your tortoise decides to take a nibble. Luckily I have plenty of garden centres around me so that won't be a problem
6: The tortoise him/herself :D

 

I do hope that is everything I will need lsited above but please if I have forgotten anything please let me know! :) I want to be fully prepared and start to save. I am looking into building my own tortoise table, however, as it may be cheaper and maybe even a little bigger, however I know I need to check the wood I use isn't pine or cedar as it is toxic to them :)

 

Thanks for reading, super excited :D

Georgia :)